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		<title>By: karolina</title>
		<link>http://misko.hevery.com/your-suggestions/comment-page-4/#comment-17357</link>
		<dc:creator>karolina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 11:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Misko,
two year ago we discussed your TTD-course at the Fac. of Math and Physics..during the time the situation changed and our vice-dean for informatics dept. is very interested in starting a new discussion about this matter..so, is your offer still valid?
regards, karolina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Misko,<br />
two year ago we discussed your TTD-course at the Fac. of Math and Physics..during the time the situation changed and our vice-dean for informatics dept. is very interested in starting a new discussion about this matter..so, is your offer still valid?<br />
regards, karolina</p>
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		<title>By: Wouter de Kort</title>
		<link>http://misko.hevery.com/your-suggestions/comment-page-4/#comment-15984</link>
		<dc:creator>Wouter de Kort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 10:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Misko,

I would like to say that I&#039;m learning a lot by reading your blogs and looking at the presentations :)

I&#039;m only having a question about how to inject disposable items. 
I&#039;m a .NET developer and I use things like 
public class Presenter // Follows MVP pattern
{
....
public void DoStuff()
{
// Use a WCF service that should be closed properly (in test it&#039;s mocked so no WCF)
using(IMyService service = ServiceFactory.Instance.Create()) { } 
}
}
If I would pass service as a parameter, then the calling code would have to dispose of the service but the calling code is a codebehind file of my ASPX so that shouldn&#039;t know about services and things like that.

How would you handle this? Make the whole Presenter disposable and pass the service in the constructor (trough a factory) or... ?

Thanks!
Wouter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Misko,</p>
<p>I would like to say that I&#8217;m learning a lot by reading your blogs and looking at the presentations <img src='http://misko.hevery.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m only having a question about how to inject disposable items.<br />
I&#8217;m a .NET developer and I use things like<br />
public class Presenter // Follows MVP pattern<br />
{<br />
&#8230;.<br />
public void DoStuff()<br />
{<br />
// Use a WCF service that should be closed properly (in test it&#8217;s mocked so no WCF)<br />
using(IMyService service = ServiceFactory.Instance.Create()) { }<br />
}<br />
}<br />
If I would pass service as a parameter, then the calling code would have to dispose of the service but the calling code is a codebehind file of my ASPX so that shouldn&#8217;t know about services and things like that.</p>
<p>How would you handle this? Make the whole Presenter disposable and pass the service in the constructor (trough a factory) or&#8230; ?</p>
<p>Thanks!<br />
Wouter</p>
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		<title>By: LA</title>
		<link>http://misko.hevery.com/your-suggestions/comment-page-4/#comment-9689</link>
		<dc:creator>LA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Misko,

It there a good tutorial on setting up and using Jasmine-Node? And also, what are some suggested guidelines for BDD for both client-side and server-side JavaScript?

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Misko,</p>
<p>It there a good tutorial on setting up and using Jasmine-Node? And also, what are some suggested guidelines for BDD for both client-side and server-side JavaScript?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Neo</title>
		<link>http://misko.hevery.com/your-suggestions/comment-page-4/#comment-9640</link>
		<dc:creator>Neo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 00:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Misko,
I pretty like your google tech talk about Unit testing.
I personally use python unit testing framework to keep track of the  failures. But I have a question Are there any disadvantages of unit testing except it taking time?

Thanks,
Neo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Misko,<br />
I pretty like your google tech talk about Unit testing.<br />
I personally use python unit testing framework to keep track of the  failures. But I have a question Are there any disadvantages of unit testing except it taking time?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Neo</p>
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		<title>By: Suyash</title>
		<link>http://misko.hevery.com/your-suggestions/comment-page-4/#comment-9128</link>
		<dc:creator>Suyash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2011 17:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Misko,

I gave a talk yesterday at my company for the Eclipse Developer meetup and shared your blog/technique as to how make yourself more productive on Eclipse and use TDD: http://misko.hevery.com/2009/05/07/configure-your-ide-to-run-your-tests-automatically/

http://www.meetup.com/sfeclipse/events/22075241/

Thanks for putting it up, I heard you over at Google Angular meetup earlier in June.

Cheers,
Suyash</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Misko,</p>
<p>I gave a talk yesterday at my company for the Eclipse Developer meetup and shared your blog/technique as to how make yourself more productive on Eclipse and use TDD: <a href="http://misko.hevery.com/2009/05/07/configure-your-ide-to-run-your-tests-automatically/" rel="nofollow">http://misko.hevery.com/2009/05/07/configure-your-ide-to-run-your-tests-automatically/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.meetup.com/sfeclipse/events/22075241/" rel="nofollow">http://www.meetup.com/sfeclipse/events/22075241/</a></p>
<p>Thanks for putting it up, I heard you over at Google Angular meetup earlier in June.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Suyash</p>
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		<title>By: Johannes</title>
		<link>http://misko.hevery.com/your-suggestions/comment-page-4/#comment-8939</link>
		<dc:creator>Johannes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 22:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Misko,

I have been reading some of your articles and while they make sense - it seems you have not really touched the area of listeners. It seems to me that a lot of the wiring in some applications are actually not just getting references to services but also registering callbacks/listeners on these. Whats the best course of action for this? Following the advice of: No work in constructors and pass temporary services as parameters the best way would be:

In an init method that takes the event sources as parameters ? But if so, who is going to call it? The injector?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Misko,</p>
<p>I have been reading some of your articles and while they make sense &#8211; it seems you have not really touched the area of listeners. It seems to me that a lot of the wiring in some applications are actually not just getting references to services but also registering callbacks/listeners on these. Whats the best course of action for this? Following the advice of: No work in constructors and pass temporary services as parameters the best way would be:</p>
<p>In an init method that takes the event sources as parameters ? But if so, who is going to call it? The injector?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Sinker</title>
		<link>http://misko.hevery.com/your-suggestions/comment-page-4/#comment-8881</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Sinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 00:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Misko, how did you let the Android team produce such an untestable system?  Can you go give them some stern looks and a good spanking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Misko, how did you let the Android team produce such an untestable system?  Can you go give them some stern looks and a good spanking?</p>
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		<title>By: Tobias</title>
		<link>http://misko.hevery.com/your-suggestions/comment-page-4/#comment-8788</link>
		<dc:creator>Tobias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 10:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Misko,  
do you have a presentation about how all this testing knowledge evolved at Google? I rember a presentation about &quot;testing on the toilet&quot; around 2008 and at IO 2009 there was this talk about Guice. Now there is this very detailed guide about writing testable code - where the good implementation always uses guice. 
What were the important steps in this process of learning? Which of them would you do different today?   
How do you rate the role of pair programming or code reviews done with tools like gerrit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Misko,<br />
do you have a presentation about how all this testing knowledge evolved at Google? I rember a presentation about &#8220;testing on the toilet&#8221; around 2008 and at IO 2009 there was this talk about Guice. Now there is this very detailed guide about writing testable code &#8211; where the good implementation always uses guice.<br />
What were the important steps in this process of learning? Which of them would you do different today?<br />
How do you rate the role of pair programming or code reviews done with tools like gerrit?</p>
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		<title>By: misko</title>
		<link>http://misko.hevery.com/your-suggestions/comment-page-4/#comment-8689</link>
		<dc:creator>misko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 18:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@William,

I have been planning on writings some of these articles, but I am having hard time finding the time, but they are coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@William,</p>
<p>I have been planning on writings some of these articles, but I am having hard time finding the time, but they are coming.</p>
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		<title>By: William Gomez</title>
		<link>http://misko.hevery.com/your-suggestions/comment-page-4/#comment-8553</link>
		<dc:creator>William Gomez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 13:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Misko, I know you had a couple of articles that touched on it, but how about a more in-depth article about what you&#039;ve learned from Angular about writing testable Javascript ?  Best ways to structure code for testability, etc.  That would be very helpful to me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Misko, I know you had a couple of articles that touched on it, but how about a more in-depth article about what you&#8217;ve learned from Angular about writing testable Javascript ?  Best ways to structure code for testability, etc.  That would be very helpful to me!</p>
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